Evelyn Fuqua: An Interview with Dr. Evelyn Fuqua
Ed. Note: Over the last several years, Pat Chalfant has conducted a much appreciated
series of interviews with the founding members of APRT. Here is an interview with former
APRT boardmember Dr. Evelyn Fuqua, author of From Sirius to Death. To quote Pat Chalfant
regarding the role of the APRT founders in building the APRT (now IARRT) organization:
"All the IARRT founding members were willing to take a chance - to 'bet on a dark horse' -
and they have all shown immense determination and dedication. These qualities are
no less true of Dr. Fuqua - this issue's distinguished Member of the Board."
PC (Pat Chalfant): Evelyn, how long were you on the APRT Board?
EF (Evelyn Fuqua): Six years, from 1981 to 1987.
PC: I know you were treasurer your second two years and first vice
president your last two years--what did you do on the Board the first two years, then?
EF: I was simply a Member of the Board.
PC: You didn't start the work with Rose until you were off the Board, right?
(Rose is the Walk-In who prompted Dr. Fuqua to write her
recently-published book From Sirius to Earth.)
EF: That's right. As a matter of fact, when I was first on the Board I was just awe-struck
by these people on it who knew so much about past life therapy. I was still a counselor in
the school system. I was rather amazed when they asked me to be on the Board. The people
I met were just these wonderful people. I was already convinced of past lives and all of that
before that time but this further convinced me because of the quality
of the people and the stories I heard them tell.
PC: I had heard that you were the first person on the Board to sign up
famous-name speakers as keynotes for the conferences. Is that correct?
EF: Let me explain the situation. There was a real transition during the time when
I became first vice president. When Hazel Denning asked me to run, I asked what
I was supposed to do and she said that I was supposed to introduce the speakers and
that was about it. After that, Trisha Caetano, who was president at that time, realized as
she talked with other Board members that Hazel wanted to write (her first book, True Hauntings).
Since Hazel had been running APRT to a great degree, Trisha decided (although I didn't
know what I was getting into) that the first vice president would take over what that officer had
always been supposed to do--contact all the speakers and make all the arrangements with
them for the conferences. Hazel had been doing all that before. It was just a tremendous
job. Dr. Brian Weiss was a speaker during the time I was first vice president. But we also
had a lot of well known speakers before that. He just happened to have a high media
profile at that time. It was a time of transition on the Board because we were working
toward having other people take over what Hazel had been doing. I don't
think a lot of people knew how much Hazel had done.
PC: I think that's very true.
EF: I just can't tell you how much I admire what I feel Hazel has done for the Board.
I know how much it took to do all those things that she used to do singlehandedly. That
was when we used to meet at Astara and we had wonderful Board retreats and everything was
very relaxed. I think it's changed more toward a professional kind of atmosphere. I haven't
been directly involved, however, haven't even given any workshops for a while. After I was
no longer on the Board, I gave several workshops on the Walk-In phenomena. I appreciate
that they allowed me to do that because it was a really new topic even for APRT members. It was
something that people were unfamiliar with and I was not even totally sure what was going on myself.
PC: So, APRT really supported you by allowing you to use the Walk-In material in a workshop.
What other ways did you feel APRT was a support and how did you feel the experience contributed to you as a therapist?
EF: I think it gave me the inspiration and the confidence to go into private practice on a
full-time basis in this kind of work. As I said, I had just been involved in this kind of therapy
prior to APRT on a very limited basis. I have not gone through any designated training program per
se but I learned so much through the other Board members and the workshops and conferences.
PC: Is there anything that you perhaps think of as your particular contribution to the Board?
EF: I always was in favor of making it as professional as possible and having the main
speakers be people from the professional area. But when I first started going to APRT
conferences I was fascinated, because my background was very academic--all the way through
it had been a totally academic program in traditional psychology. It was not in metaphysics at all...
PC: Excuse me, Evelyn, but did you have your Ph.D. when you were on the Board?
EF: I finished it in '83 so it was during that time that I finished it. There were so many
people there that were astrologers, numerologists, all kinds of things I absolutely loved.
I felt that we wanted it to be professional, since the more professional it was, the more it
would be accepted by mainstream therapists; but I've always hoped it would keep the
spiritual people who do all of these other wonderful kinds of things because it's an ideal
way to learn the entire field of metaphysics. That part of it was just
as interesting to me as the professional part.
I don't know that I left a legacy per se but on APRT's tenth anniversary there was a little
thing that was written about me that was something like, "We will miss your professionalism."
I guess that was how I was thought of because my field was very academic.
PC: I'm switching gears now, thinking of your book FROM SIRIUS TO EARTH and about
the time that I attended an APRT conference where I heard a "Walk-In" speak about her
experience. Ruth Montgomery of course, dubbed this the "Walk-In" experience years ago.
I know you call this experience Soul Exchange. Could you just tell the story briefly?
EF: You know, of what I have come to call the general Walk-In category, the soul exchange
entity would be only about 30%. This is something that I have learned over a period of time. The
other 70% have different explanations. I still don't like the term "Walk-In" because it's nondefinitive.
Because Ruth Montgomery had come up with that term it was familiar to many people. There
is an organization called "WE"--Walk-ins for Evolution--that is a fairly large group now that
is in St. Paul, Minnesota. They have conferences twice a year. That's been around 4 or 5 years now.
PC: Is the subject of your book, Rose-Athor, still living?
EF: She is still living and she does readings. I would definitely put them into the Edgar
Cayce-type readings. She goes into a trance state. Her specialty is reading from the
Source. She will take a soul from the time it comes from the Source and as it does all of its
different stages before it comes to earth. I have collected hundreds of these readings at
this point because I'm so interested in this kind of research. These readings show that we've
had so many existences before we come to earth. I'm sure that's true of most of us. Earth is
kind of a new thing for most of us, particularly, I think for those who are in the past life
therapists' group because they have no doubt been around for a long time. We have been
on different planets, different star systems, all over the place. This comes out in little
bits and pieces to put the whole thing together in these different readings. It's not appropriate
for all my clients, but for certain clients, at a certain point, I know that this is more than we're ever
going to get from their subconscious mind or their higher self. So if they're open to the idea of an
Athor reading, that's almost the final step in their therapy (we continue the therapy if it's necessary)
but generally it answers the final questions and makes sense of the things we couldn't quite put
together. These readings are what totally convinced me that this was a Soul Exchange.
It wasn't just the therapy per se but the fact that this woman can do all these things.
PC: Do the readings overlap what you may have already learned about the person's past lives.
EF: Yes, it very much ties into that. And it ties into the questions the clients present to her.
It's amazing how much the readings tie into the present lifetime. The profound relationships
that we think of as soul mates and people we've known during all kinds of past lives on earth will often
have started even before they came to earth. Those are the ones that are so profound that they're different.
PC: They're compelling!
EF: They're totally compelling.
PC: Could you do a thumbnail description of your experience with the Athor entity, just tell the story in brief?
EF: Rose came to me because she had environmental illness. She thought that hypnosis
would help her. She wasn't interested in past lives. She was strictly interested in trying to get
better in terms of her disease. Whereas that improved, we never actually cured it. Apparently,
from a cosmic point of view the reason she needed to come to me was to find out that she actually
was not the person she thought she was. This was a buried memory. It happened
when she was three years two months old.
PC: The Walk-In experience?
EF: Yes, when it happens when a child is so young they have no idea what's happening to
them. All the rest of the Walk-Ins I've known in my private practice have happened at an
older age so that they were aware something very drastic was happening in terms of their
personality. But when it's a child, they are just confused. To begin with, we went through what we
thought would be causes for the illness. Then this being identified as Athor started coming
through rather regularly. We gradually learned that Athor was an aspect of one of the members
of the Council of Twelve on the etheric plane of the star system Sirius. That was totally mind-
boggling to me because that meant that I had--sitting on my chair--a person who was dealing
with very earthly problems, but was also (as we eventually had confirmed for us) part of the
Great White Brotherhood, and the Council of Twelve. Why then, we wondered, had she come
into a damaged body? To make a long story short, it turned out that it was a karmic debt owed by
Athor since the time of Christ. The Rose soul had agreed prior to her present lifetime to let Athor
take over her body; but at the time of Christ, a previous attempt by Athor to take over the Rose
entity's body had not been prearranged and the results had been disastrous. The Athor being
was paying a karmic debt this lifetime for that destructive past life action.
PC: I told you after I had read half of your book that I think you've done the Walk-In phenomenon
a great service because your book made this concept more accessible for me and I think it will do
so for many readers. Now that I've read the entire book, I feel that even more strongly. As I also
said, it seems to me it might make an exciting movie--it's got mystery, suspense, hippy drug culture,
white and black magic episodes and a shocker of a spiritual ending--and it's someone's real life.
EF: It's interesting that you would say that because we've always kind of thought that,
too. It really is quite a drama. Maybe that will happen. It's up to my publisher because he's the one
who is responsible for movie rights. I just hope that they would do it legitimately. It would be a good story.
PC: Thanks, Evelyn, for your devotion to the Board's work and for taking the time for this interview.
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